Sunday, December 10, 2023

Mark 8: appreciate Yeshua's civic influence in order to respect his aid

Note: In early 2024 I learned his mom and dad in Nazareth named and called him "Yeshua", and "Jesus" is a consequence of translations from Aramaic/Hebrew to Greek, to Latin, to old English, then to Protestant English. "Christ" supports Paul, and some people believe Paul without civic objection. This discovery is wonderful and to be shared. 

CJB emphasis in bold (online), greenred, and blue, with footnotes in blue; NIV in magenta (none); Nomads* comments in yellow; and my comments in gray.   

*Participative Sunday-school-class at UBC led by Kenneth Tipton. My continually improved statement about Genesis 1:26-28 is at the end of this.

Mark 8 principal thoughts to share, appreciating Genesis 1:26-28 as the God’s word:

1.     Observing the laws of physics, the feeding of crowds is divinity school distorting Yeshua inspiring people who planned to share to those who did not.

2.     Mark claims Torah defenders wanted to “test” Yeshua. I don’t think so. I think they sought his opinion.

3.     I think representing Yeshua as being coy about signs is divinity school propaganda.

4.     I don’t think Yeshua would talk to his apostles totally in metaphor like yeast’s influence on bread.

5.     Yeshua comprehends the incident with the blind man. I do not.

6.     If Peter answered, “You are the Messiah,” being a Jew, he was not arguing salvation of souls. On the other hand, Mark was written after Paul’s ministry, so it is the product of competitive divinity schools.

7.     “Son of Man” is undoubtedly a divinity school product.

8.     I doubt Yeshua speculate about Old Testament scripture and imagined himself the fulfillment.

9.     If Yeshua spoke of consequences of people “ashamed of me” it was in the context of benefitting from his opinion about the good. Regardless, it does me no good to disregard him by calling him “Jesus” or “Christ”. I cannot deny my opinion: neither Jesus the redeemer nor Christ the savior can displace Yeshua’s civic influence to the good.

 Mark 8 CJB

8:1 It was during that time that another large crowd gathered, and they had nothing to eat. Yeshua called his talmidim to him and said to them, “I feel sorry for these people, because they have been with me three days, and now they have nothing to eat. If I send them off to their homes hungry, they will collapse on the way; some of them have come a long distance.” His talmidim said to him, “How can anyone find enough bread to satisfy these people in a remote place like this?” “How many loaves do you have?” he asked them. They answered, “Seven.” He then told the crowd to sit down on the ground, took the seven loaves, made a b’rakhah, broke the loaves and gave them to his talmidim to serve to the people. They also had a few fish; making a b’rakhah over them he also ordered these to be served. The people ate their fill; and the talmidim took up the leftover pieces, seven large basketsful. About four thousand were there. 10 After sending them away, Yeshua got into the boat with his talmidim and went off to the district of Dalmanuta.

11 The P’rushim came and began arguing with him; they wanted him to give them a sign from Heaven, because they were out to trap him. 12 With a sigh that came straight from his heart, he said, “Why does this generation want a sign? Yes! I tell you, no sign will be given to this generation!” 13 With that, he left them, got into the boat again and went off to the other side of the lake.

14 Now the talmidim had forgotten to bring bread and had with them in the boat only one loaf. 15 So when Yeshua said to them, “Watch out! Guard yourselves from the hametz of the P’rushim and the hametz of Herod,” 16 they thought he had said it because they had no bread. 17 But, aware of this, he said, “Why are you talking with each other about having no bread? Don’t you see or understand yet? Have your hearts been made like stone? 18 You have eyes — don’t you see? You have ears — don’t you hear? And don’t you remember? 19 When I broke the five loaves for the five thousand, how many baskets full of broken pieces did you collect?” “Twelve,” they answered him. 20 “And when I broke the seven loaves for the four thousand, how many baskets full of broken pieces did you collect?” “Seven,” they answered. 21 He said to them, “And you still don’t understand?”

22 They came to Beit-Tzaidah. Some people brought him a blind man and begged Yeshua to touch him. 23 Taking the blind man’s hand, he led him outside the town. He spit in his eyes, put his hands on him and asked him, “Do you see anything?” 24 He looked up and said, “I see people, but they look like walking trees.” 25 Then he put his hands on the blind man’s eyes again. He peered intently, and his eyesight was restored, so that he could see everything distinctly. 26 Yeshua sent him home with the words, “Don’t go into town.” [Yeshua comprehends this story, and I do not.]

27 Yeshua and his talmidim went on to the towns of Caesarea Philippi. On the way, he asked his talmidim, “Who are people saying I am?” 28 “Some say you are Yochanan the Immerser,” they told him, “others say Eliyahu, and still others, one of the prophets.” 29 “But you,” he asked, “who do you say I am?” Kefa answered, “You are the Mashiach.” 30 Then Yeshua warned them not to tell anyone about him. 31 He began teaching them that the Son of Man had to endure much suffering and be rejected by the elders, the head cohanim and the Torah-teachers; and that he had to be put to death; but that after three days, he had to rise again. 32 He spoke very plainly about it. Kefa took him aside and began rebuking him. 33 But, turning around and looking at his talmidim, he rebuked Kefa. “Get behind me, Satan!” he said, “For your thinking is from a human perspective, not from God’s perspective!”

34 Then Yeshua called the crowd and his talmidim to him and told them, “If anyone wants to come after me, let him say ‘No’ to himself, take up his execution-stake, and keep following me. 35 For whoever wants to save his own life will destroy it, but whoever destroys his life for my sake and for the sake of the Good News will save it. 36 Indeed, what will it benefit a person if he gains the whole world but forfeits his life37 What could a person give in exchange for his life? 38 For if someone is ashamed of me and of what I say in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man also will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father’s glory with the holy angels. [The attempt to substitute Jesus” in this passage is only 500 years old after 1100 years’ development from the Greek transliteration of Yeshua. It is alright with me for divinity schools and other persons to ignore Yeshua. However, I will no longer pretend their influence. For me, Yeshua, the civic influencer to the good, replaced doctrine of both Jesus, the redeemer of error, and Christ the blood sacrifice for antinomians. I am not elect and accept my status. Having discovered Yeshua, I will not, cannot, go back to before.]

NIV, as was on December 10, 2023

Quoting leader Kenneth Tipton,[For 2023, Nomads] are “Discovering Advent in the Gospel of Mark” through the study authored by Traci Daub titled, Holy Disruption.  [In week one, citing Mark 13,] we explored the Christmas theme of waiting and were encouraged by Jesus to be proactive and WATCH.   [For week 2,] we explore the Christmas theme of Peace on Earth Good Will to All.  Mark Chapter 8 . . . begins with a familiar story of a miracle and ends with a rebuke and an admonition by Jesus to FOLLOW

[I read scripture with 2 principles in mind: Genesis 1:26-28’s message that humankind may and can choose to rule to thegood on earth and Jesus’ message that humans may and can pursue perfect performance -- in theGod’s image. When I perceive Christian bias in NIV, I check CJB. “Civic” expresses reliably responsible connections and transactions to thegood.]

8:1 During those days another large crowd gathered. Since they had nothing to eat, Jesus called his disciples to him and said, “I have compassion for these people; they have already been with me three days and have nothing to eat [This year, my friend Phil Chialastri fasted 40 days. Also, provisions for 3 days might be stretched on intentions.]If I send them home hungry, they will collapse on the way, because some of them have come a long distance.”

His disciples answered, “But where in this remote place can anyone get enough bread to feed them?”

“How many loaves do you have?” Jesus asked.

“Seven,” they replied.

He told the crowd to sit down on the ground. When he had taken the seven loaves and given thanks, he broke them and gave them to his disciples to distribute to the people, and they did so. They had a few small fish as well; he gave thanks for them also and told the disciples to distribute them. The people ate and were satisfied. Afterward the disciples picked up seven basketfuls of broken pieces that were left over. About four thousand were present. After he had sent them away, 10 he got into the boat with his disciples and went to the region of Dalmanutha. [A suburb of Magdala?]

11 The Pharisees came and began to question Jesus. To test him, they asked him for a sign from heaven. [A disciple could have responded that the feeding of the crowd was a sign, which suggests to me that in reality Jesus inspired people who had food to share it, and everyone got their fill with leftovers. Also, Mark could not judge the Pharisees; I speculate they sincerely wanted to know Jesus’ opinion to consider for improving the Torah.] 12 He sighed deeply and said, “Why does this generation ask for a sign? Truly I tell you, no sign will be given to it.” [Jesus could have responded, I just fed 4000; is that a sign, rather than “no sign will be given”. I doubt Mark’s report, because I consider Jesus reliable.] 13 Then he left them, got back into the boat and crossed to the other side. [If this is west to east across the Sea of Galilee, it’s a trip.]

14 The disciples had forgotten to bring bread, except for one loaf they had with them in the boat. 15 “Be careful,” Jesus warned them. “Watch out for the yeast [leaven, rising, lightener, light -- a metaphor for either enlightenment or lies] of the Pharisees and that of Herod [church and state].”

16 They discussed this with one another and said, “It is because we have no bread.”

17 Aware of their discussion, Jesus asked them: “Why are you talking about having no bread? Do you still not see or understand? Are your hearts hardened? 18 Do you have eyes but fail to see, and ears but fail to hear? And don’t you remember? 19 When I broke the five loaves for the five thousand [V. 8 says 4000, so he refers to an earlier event.], how many basketfuls of pieces did you pick up?”

“Twelve,” they replied.

20 “And when I broke the seven loaves for the four thousand, how many basketfuls of pieces did you pick up?”

They answered, “Seven.”

21 He said to them, “Do you still not understand?” [That he is a miracle worker? Yet I don’t think so and think this is church dogma.]

[My opinion (I don’t know the ineluctable truth) is that Jesus, in V 15, was reportedly saying that the Pharisees and Herod had not the appreciation to participate-in a miracle-demonstration. Also, in V 12, Jesus seemed to tell the Pharisees he would not negotiate with them.

This sequence, 1) feeding 5,000 with 12 basketfuls left then 4,000 with 7 leftovers; 2) then refusing to perform a test for Torah developers; 3) then decrying the attitude of the civic leader; and 4) finally chastising the disciples’ failure to understand, presents a quid pro quo. That is, you either 1) appreciate Jesus or 2) cannot learn to respect him. It affirms both 1) the concept of election, or being chosen by God to believe Jesus and 2) the human choice to appreciate the reliable good. See John 6:35-40; there, John describes election without using the term. Only Matthew and Mark use the word “election”. Election carries a risk: perceived antinomianism (not a biblical word), which can lead to a life unexamined. A life unexamined cannot be a life of good choices.]

22 They came to Bethsaida, and some people brought a blind man and begged Jesus to touch him. 23 He took the blind man by the hand and led him outside the village. When he had spit on the man’s eyes and put his hands on him, Jesus asked, “Do you see anything?”

24 He looked up and said, “I see people; they look like trees walking around.”

25 Once more Jesus put his hands on the man’s eyes. Then his eyes were opened, his sight was restored, and he saw everything clearly. 26 Jesus sent him home, saying, “Don’t even go into the village.[Again, Mark’s report implies that miracles are intended for antinomians only; unbelievers are not to know miracles happened. I do not think the God manipulates favorite people or groups using the cycle of illness and healing.] [It took 2 experiences with Jesus for the blind man to see clearly. It’s another metaphor, perhaps to express understanding Jesus’s influence. Today, December 10, 2023, I see clearly that my individual joy at Christmas is to perceive Jesus’ civic influence rather than sacrifice to save souls to heaven. It is a joy that cannot be discouraged and I seek to share.]

27 Jesus and his disciples went on to the villages around Caesarea Philippi. On the way he asked them, “Who do people say I am?”

28 They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, one of the prophets.”

29 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”

Peter answered, “You are the Messiah.”

30 Jesus warned them not to tell anyone about him. [That’s Mark’s report, decades after Jesus was executed. Perhaps in actual reality Jesus said there would be no Messiah: the God is for all humankind.]

31 He then began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law [that is, the Torah maintained by Israel, would not affirm Jesus as the Son of God], and that he must be killed and after three days rise again. 32 He spoke plainly about this, and Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him.

33 But when Jesus turned and looked at his disciples, he rebuked Peter. “Get behind me, Satan!” [Perhaps Jesus was rejecting his own thoughts, rather than accusing Peter of being Satan.] he said. “You do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.” [How could Jesus accuse Peter of evil then explain that he does not understand the God, perhaps Jesus. Since God is a mystery, people may willfully call Phil Beaver “Satan”, but I doubt they do.]

34 Then he called the crowd to him along with his disciples and said: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. 35 For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me and for the gospel will save it. [This sentence contradicts Jesus’ affirmation of Genesis 1:26-28, which assigns to the individual the independent responsibility for order and prosperity to life on earth and to the earth. Does “the gospel” differ from Jesus influence? And is Jesus message -- that humans can perfect personal behavior, the “Good News” (CJB)?] 36 What good is it for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? [Can a person perfect their behavior and lose their soul? This calls to mind the competition between James’ epistle about behavior and Paul’s argument for “election” or antinomianism.] 37 Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul? [Their life? If so, that’s a contradiction.] 38 If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his Father’s glory with the holy angels. [Since returning to UBC on October 17, 2021, I realize that the-metaphysical-Jesus supported every good decision I ever made. I will not allow the mysteries of God, the Holy Spirit, Satan, soul, worship& praise, Christ, any religious construct, or church lessen my appreciation for Jesus’ civic influence.]

[I read to apply perhaps 5500 year old Sumerian political philosophy. It’s primitively expressed by Semite scholars of 3900 years ago in Genesis 1:26-28; in my paraphrase:  Female-and-male-human-being may and can choose to independently and together constrain political democracy on earth: on earth, humankind has the power and authority to pursue the good and constrain the bad. Civic citizens may use the rule of law to develop statutory justice. Yeshua* affirmed these ideas in each Matthew 18:18 (no power to order earth beyond humankind), Matthew 19:3-8 (civic loyalty), Matthew 5:48 (perfection), and in other direct dialogue.
The next Bible canon could and should include the law codes of Sumer and competing civilizations. Resulting insights would take the heat off Judeo-Christianity, a Christ vs Messiah** vs the God competition that obfuscates Yeshua.*** Personal and institutional divinity egregiously deludes Yeshua’s civic influence to the good. The collaborative view from Ancient Testament, Old Testament, and New Testament could accelerate mutual pursuit of human being (verb) and lessen habitual baby killings, like those happening in Israel, in Ukraine, and in the U.S. in the year 2024.

*In 4 BC, Yosef and Myriam of Nazareth begot Yeshua. 250 years beforehand, Greek translation of the Torah provided Ἰησοῦς and χριστός, both of which competed with “Yeshua”, the former during Yeshua’s life and the latter in afterdeath. By the 16th century CE, Christianity used “Jesus Christ” to repress Yeshua. 

The person, Yeshua, said, in my paraphrase: if people don’t speak my name they can neither consider my civic influence nor share my open-heartedness; people who do not appreciate Yeshua cannot respect Yeshua. Competitive monotheism hides Yeshua’s civic influence. Churches hide Yeshua. Churches claim the Holy Bible is the word of the God yet do everything they can to negate Genesis 1:26-28: humankind is responsible to rule to the good on earth.

The God is a mystery. However, civic citizens may, can, and a few do discern Yeshua’s civic influence. Accepting Genesis 1:26-28 helps yet does not exclude the open-minded and open-hearted fellow citizen who has not discovered Yeshua, yet is due civic appreciation anyway. Appreciation requires constraint to bad actors and elimination to evil doers.

**Cyrus, 600 BC, is called a messiah in Isaiah 45:1.

***Competitive monotheism survives on war.]

The Mark 8 NIV commentary originated on December 10, 2023, before I committed to Yeshua’s civic influence then updated using CJB on July 9, 2024

 

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