John 5 promotes eternal afterdeath rather than joyful life
Guide:
CJB New Testament emphasis in bold (CJB online) or OJB
Old Testament, text I emphasize in green; NIV in magenta; footnotes to CJB in superscript sky blue; Nomads* discussion
in yellow; and my comments in gray. I may use endnotes to cite outside literature or
extensive comment.
*Participative
Sunday-school-class at UBC led by Ken Tipton. Ken seems to consider answers in
a continuous search for ineluctable truth. My evolving statement about Genesis
1:26-28 is at the end of this post.
Chief concerns and possible insights:
1.
John’s
writing does not promote confidence in human being (the practice)
a. V1-9 John slights Yeshua with a miracle at
an un-civic healing pool.
i.
The
healed person doesn’t care who caused the healing.
ii.
Ungrateful
like the healed blind man in John 9.
iii.
And
ready to blame Yeshua for the Sunday healing.
b. Judeans are hung up on Moses’ laws
regarding Sabbath work.
2.
John’s
Yeshua seems neither gracious nor patient
a. Convicts the lame man of sin without citing
any offense
i.
Unlike
the man blinded for Yahweh’s purpose
b. Claims divinity while stating he can’t
witness for himself
c. Advertises eternal life in the afterdeath
to those who acted on his light
d. Asserts that dead people want resurrection.
e. To cite John the Baptizer does not seem
divine.
i.
Comparing
personal witness does not seem confident.
f. Dismissing the Scripture
i.
Discounting
Moses’ awareness
g. Dismissing civic integrity
3.
Most
egregiously, overlooking Yeshua’s affirmation of Genesis 1:26-28, e.g., be
perfect like The God is perfect (you can pursue perfection, if you choose).
Working considerations:
1. V1 It seems rare for Hebrew scripture to
refer to Aramaic language.
2. V3-4 there are reported healing waters,
some “miraculous”; https://guideposts.org/angels-and-miracles/miracles/7-of-the-worlds-amazing-healing-waters/,
https://albaniavisit.com/attractions/benja-thermal-baths/
(Cynthia and I saw the big crowd in 1973), and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pool_of_Bethesda.
3. V6 NIV and MSG have “get well” vs CJB “be
healed”, which seems consistent with a healing-pool story about Jesus the reported
miracle-worker.
4. V9 promoting a miracle-worker like Elijah
and Moses mollifies Yeshua’s message: humans may and can perfect their person
during life.
a. Matt 5:48, “Therefore, be perfect, just
as your Father in heaven is perfect.”
b. Deuteronomy 18:13, “You must
be wholehearted with Adonai your God.”
c. Genesis 1:26-28, esp. 26, “ And G-d said, Let Us make man in Our tzelem [image], after Our demut [likeness]: and let them
have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over
the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth
upon ha’aretz (the earth).”
5. V10.
John’s segue to the civil squabble by the Jewish leaders lessens Yeshua’s civic
influence.
a. The
people desire to behave.
b. Yeshua’s
message is goodness, V14 “stop sinning”
c. The
Jewish leaders pursue domination over people – even murder, V18.
6. V21. Performing
capricious miracles is neither Yeshua’s purpose nor The God’s work ethic.
a. Elijah reportedly
raised the dead.
b. https://www.learnreligions.com/people-raised-from-the-dead-in-the-bible-4109363
7. V22.
John forgets humility to Yeshua, choosing Paul’s theology
a. https://biblehub.com/topical/t/the_role_of_jesus_in_judgment.htm
b. Each person judges themselves, depending
upon whether they accept Genesis 1:26-28 or not
i.
Affirmed
by the laws of physics
ii.
Affirmed
by Yeshua, the person, an entity that differs from each
1. Reported miracle worker
2. The sacrificial lamb
8. V24. Capitalization of “One” suggests The
God, followed by no cap in V30 about the son.
9. V24. The segue to eternal life after
raising the dead in V21 deludes interest to perfection in life.
a. John cannot influence me to hope for
resurrection after I die.
b. I choose to pursue perfection of my person
now.
10. V26 I envision an analogue to Genesis
1:26-28: Just as The God manages the heavens, human beings may and can manage
the earth.
a. Listening to Yeshua’s commentary on
Genesis 1:26-28, et.al., empowers the person who listens to Yeshua’s
leadership.
11. V27. It seems Daniel 7:13-14 equates Bar
Enosh to Mashiach -- Son of Man to anointed one, if not Messiah.
12. V29. I want to pursue Yeshua’s civic
influence and behave, rather than accommodate evil then hope for resurrection during
my afterdeath.
a. Without Yeshua’s guidance, I cannot pursue
necessary goodness.
b. However, Genesis 1:26-28 informs me that I
can succeed if I intend to.
13. V31. I think John’s writing loses its
impact.
a. John the Baptizer seems a projection to OT
prophecy.
b. Someone else is vague.
c. John disparages scripture, which we treasure
as containing light, hard as it may be to discern.
d. John disparages Sunday school, wherein we
seek opinion we want to consider rather than praise.
14. V46. John, in Patmos 70 years after Jewish
leaders convinced Rome to execute Yeshua, conspired to project Yeshua’s life
onto Old Testament prophecy and concepts.
15. V47. I perceive that by listening to
Yeshua’s civic influence and collaborating with fellow persons, accepting reported
miracles and blood sacrifice, I have a chance to comprehend necessity and practice
goodness.
a. I trust my afterdeath, that vast time
after my body and accomplishments cease, to my origins.
b. I think I had no input into my origins and
trust the entities involved.
5 After this, there was a Judean festival; and Yeshua went up to
Yerushalayim. 2 In Yerushalayim, by the Sheep Gate,
is a pool called in Aramaic,
Beit-Zata Bethesda, 3 in which lay a
crowd of invalids — blind, lame, crippled. 4 [Some
manuscripts have verses 3b–4: . . . , waiting for the water to move; 4 for
at certain times an angel of Adonai went
down into the pool and disturbed the water, and whoever stepped into the water
first after it was disturbed was healed of whatever disease he had.] 5 One
man was there who had been ill for thirty-eight years. 6 Yeshua,
seeing this man and knowing that he had been there a long time, said to him,
“Do you want to be healed get
well?” 7 The sick man answered, “I have no
one to put me in the pool when the water is disturbed; and while I’m trying to
get there, someone goes in ahead of me.” 8 Yeshua
said to him, “Get up, pick up your mat and walk!” 9 Immediately
the man was healed, and he picked up his mat and walked. [The writer was influenced by
miracles rather than Yeshua’s message!]
Now that day was Shabbat, 10 so
the Judeans Jewish
leaders said to the man who had been healed, “It’s Shabbat!
It’s against Torah for you to carry your mat!” 11 But
he answered them, “The man who healed me — he’s the one who told me, ‘Pick up
your mat and walk.’” 12 They asked him, “Who is the
man who told you to pick it up and walk?” 13 But
the man who had been healed didn’t know who it was, because Yeshua had slipped
away into the crowd. [The
healed blind man also did not know; John 9:10.]
14 Afterwards Yeshua found him in the Temple court
and said to him, “See, you are well! Now stop sinning, or something worse may happen to you!” 15 The
man went off away
and told the Judeans it was Yeshua who had healed him; 16 and
on account of this, the
Judeans began harassing Yeshua because he did these things on Shabbat.
17 But he answered them, “My
Father has been working until now, and I too am working.” 18 This
answer made the Judeans all the more intent on killing him — not only was he breaking Shabbat;
but also, by saying that God was his own Father, he was claiming equality with
God. 19 Therefore, Yeshua said this to them: “Yes,
indeed! I tell you that the Son cannot do anything on his own, but only what he
sees the Father doing; whatever the Father does, the Son does too. 20 For
the Father loves the Son and shows him everything he does; and he will show him
even greater things than these, so that you will be amazed. 21 Just as the Father raises the dead
and makes them alive, so too the Son makes alive anyone he wants. [John has no evidence to claim
that The God is capricious! But wait: he makes it contentions on belief in “the
Son”. I doubt Yeshua expressed such theology.] 22 The Father does not judge anyone but has entrusted all
judgment to the Son, 23 so that all may honor the
Son as they honor the Father. Whoever fails to honor the Son is not honoring
the Father who sent him. 24 Yes, indeed! I tell you
that whoever hears what I am saying and trusts the One him who sent me has eternal life — that is, he will not come up for judgment but has
already crossed over from death to life! 25 Yes,
indeed! I tell you that there
is coming a time — in fact, it’s already here — when the dead will hear the
voice of the Son of God, and those who listen will come to life. [Preconception to salvation in
afterdeath can repress Yeshua’s civic influence to life. It seems John suffers such
preconception.] 26 For just as the Father
has life in himself, so he has
given the Son life to have in himself. [This argument reminds me of Genesis 1:26-28 and “humankind
in our image so they may rule on earth”.] 27 Also
he has given him authority to
execute judgment [A
person’s life is judged by whether they accept Genesis 1:26-28, which Yeshua
affirmed, establishing his influence to necessary goodness.], because he
is the Son of Man. [Daniel 7:13-14, OJB, “I was beholding in visions of the night, and, hinei {Here I am}, one
like a Bar Enosh {Son of man} (Ben Adam, i.e., Moshiach {anointed one})
came with the clouds of Shomayim {heavens}, and came to the Atik Yomin (Ancient
of Days, i.e., Hashem {the name or G-d}), and before Him He was brought. And
there was given Him (Moshiach) dominion, and honor, and sovereignty, that all
people, Goyim, tongues, should pey-lammed-chet (see Dan 3:12, serve, reverence as deity Him
(Moshiach). His dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass
away, and His (Messianic) Kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.”
Compare NIV: “In my vision at night I looked,
and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of
heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power;
all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is
an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one
that will never be destroyed.”] 28 Don’t
be surprised at this; because the time is coming when all who are in the grave
will hear his voice 29 and come out — those who
have done good to a
resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to a resurrection of judgment. 30 I
can’t do a thing on my own. As I hear, I judge; and my judgment is right;
because I don’t seek my own desire, but the desire of the one [Is the non-cap a typo?] who sent me.
31 “If I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is not valid. 32 But
there is someone else testifying on my behalf, and I know that the testimony he
is making is valid — 33 you have sent to Yochanan,
and he has testified to the truth. 34 Not that I
collect human testimony; rather, I say these things so that you might be
saved. 35 He was a lamp burning and shining, and
for a little while you were willing to bask in his light.
36 “But I have a testimony that is greater than
Yochanan’s. For the things the Father has given me to do, the very things I am
doing now, testify on my behalf that the Father has sent me. [But you are testimony on your
behalf is not valid, per V31.]
37 “In addition, the Father who sent me has himself
testified on my behalf. But you have never heard his voice or seen his
shape; 38 moreover, his word does not stay in you,
because you don’t trust the one [Here the non-cap seems appropriate?] he sent. 39 You
keep examining the Tanakh the Scriptures because you think that in it you have eternal life. Those very
Scriptures bear witness to me, 40 but you won’t
come to me in order to have life!
41 “I don’t collect praise from men, 42 but
I do know you people — I know that you have no love for God in you! 43 I
have come in my Father’s name, and you don’t accept me; if someone else comes in his own name, him you will
accept. [For
examples, Peter, Paul, or Mary . . . and there’s Moses.] 44 How
can you trust? You’re busy collecting praise from each other, instead of
seeking praise from God only.
45 “But don’t think that it is I who will be your
accuser before the Father. Do you know who will accuse you? Moshe, the very one
you have counted on! 46 For if you really believed
Moshe, you would believe me; because it was about me that he wrote. [This boast expresses to me that
John was privy to projecting Yeshua’s life onto Jewish prophesy and reports.]
47 But if you don’t believe what he wrote, how are you
going to believe what I say?”
[Moreover, before Moses, even before Adam there was the
author of Genesis 1:26-28: female and male humankind have the power, authority,
and responsibility to pursue and practice necessary goodness to life on earth.
Yeshua affirmed this and Deuteronomy 18:13 in Matthew 5:48. There’s no mention
of eternal life to personal spirit in the afterdeath.]
[Genesis
1:26-28, a second simplification from the previous presentation:
I
read to consider and apply perhaps 5500 year old Sumerian political philosophy,
religiously referenced by Semite scribes of 3900 years ago, in Genesis 1:26-28;
in my paraphrase:
Female-and-male-human-being may and can
choose to practice the power, authority, and responsibility
to pursue necessary goodness and constrain evil. Civic citizens may
and can use the rule of law to develop statutory justice.
Political
and religious philosopher Yeshua affirmed Genesis 1:26-28, contributing ideas
in each Matthew 18:18 (no peace-power above humankind), Matthew 19:3-8 (mutual
spousal loyalty), Matthew 5:48 (pursue your personal perfection, which also
affirms Deuteronomy 18:13), 19:4-6 (don’t divide/lessen goodness), and in other
direct dialogue, such as “go and sin no more”.
Discussion
I think Genesis 1:26-28 informs humankind to flourish in
necessary goodness rather than accommodate badness and allow evil.
Quoting below,
Then God said, “Let us make
mankind in our image, in our
likeness, so that
they may rule over
the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all
the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
So God
created mankind in his own image, in the image of
God he created them; male and female he created them.
God blessed them and said to them, “Be
fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in
the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on
the ground. See notes, below.
Accepting
the power, authority, and responsibility to rule on earth is human
being (verb). Reliable human-beings pursue necessary goodness to actual
reality.
Since monotheism is a human
construct, I use the phrase, “The God, whatever it may be”, to express
objection to any doctrinal God yet reserve humility to ineluctable evidence and
remaining unknowns.]